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Old 07-19-2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Croweyes1121 View Post
Yeah, and there are plenty of titles that use the SAME codec on both formats. Hence, they are identical ports.



So I suppose "Bruce Almighty" must look better than the remastered "The Fifth Element", then. It must if it's VC-1 and "The Fifth Element" is MPEG-4, right? Wrong. You have to take it on a case-by-case basis of implementation. Saying one codec is "better" than another is grossly simplistic at best. That would be like saying a 320kbps mp3 is always going to sound better than a 128kbps one. All things being equal, you'd be right. But things are not equal, are they? That said, it comes down to subjectivity, too. Personally, I prefer the look of the AVC codec to VC-1. Just a preference. Don't blow something.



A fact? Blu-Ray discs are outselling HD DVD by 2 to 1 and, in your estimation, it's NOT killing HD DVD in disc sales? This without Fox and without a fraction of the release blitz that Universal has done for HD DVD this year...I don't know what to intelligently say to that.



Unless you happen to be Toshiba. Do you have any idea how much of a loss they're taking now? And why haven't any other companies started producing players? Because they don't want to have to compete with that kind of pricing! There's no profit in it. And the fact is, you can't "not count" the PS3 when it IS out there. It's simply flawed logic to say one is winning over another when you IGNORE a HUGE player statistic like the PS3.



Ahh...so I guess everyone's buying PS3's to play all those great games that are out for it instead? lol



Please provide us a list of Blu-Ray EXCLUSIVE studios compared to HD DVD EXCLUIVE studios. I rest my case. Paramount AND Warner are both also supporting Blu-Ray, just FYI. Also, too bad Universal's titles have really suffered in the quality-control department of late (check out the last several reviews on hidefdigest.com), but I guess that's what happens when you try for quantity over quality.



Funny, both statements are blatantly false. End of story. See Pirates 1 and Pirates 2 and the aforementioned Fifth Element remaster to educate yourself.



And it also creates an unnecessary expense by forcing consumers who are only interested in the HD content to pay extra for the SD content. At least present both sides of the argument.



Nothing to offer? No, you're not biased at all. I'm biased, but I don't say things like that. HD DVD isn't a crap format. It's just not going to win. Again, just an opinion, man.



Nice, ironclad subjectivity there. For anyone interested, here's a more informed opinion:

The Digital Bits presents... The Soapbox

Don't start a thread asking for opinions and then bash people for them. I have a right to support the format I choose as much as you, but I won't question your intelligence in doing so. On the other hand, I will do all I can to correct your inaccuracies. I do think that if you're going to be such an unabashed HD DVD supporter, though, you should change the poll to HD DVD / Idiots and be done with it. Don't hide under the guise of objectivity.
There are no interactive features in those titles. Interactive features are available during a Movie and not outside the movie. Standard features do not count.

Also, the digital bits story (which I have seen before) is biased and incorrect.

I never said every title looks better. Many VC-1 titles are poor because the studio did a poor job of encoding. Nacho Libre and Scorpion King are good examples of poor VC-1 HD-DVD's. I was compare the best of best. Bruce Almighty and other titles are average at best.

They released Fifth Element "again" because the MPEG2 version from launch receive poor reviews got Blu-Ray off on the wrong foot. Of course the new one looks better. They changed codecs. That end result is expected. I mentioned this days ago.

BTW: I am not bashing you, hardly.. Heated conversations are good. By the way, I did not start this thread.

Yes, Toshiba is taking a loss to gain marketshare. That is no mystery and is typical for hardware that relies on software sales.

Many are used to the look of MPEG4 because it has been used on the PC for a while. The codec is good, do not get me wrong, but it is soft on hues and does not deal with motion as good. Subtle differences can be huge..

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